I love the idea of sending a gift and following up with a call to my SIL. FireStar Theres no reason to invite out-of-state friends are you getting married? You'll work it out.". I would never, and I do mean never, accept a family invitation sent only to me and not my husband, simply because we are a unit and the strength of our relationship is the foundation of my life; at the end of the day, I come home to my husband, not my extended family. But if he NEVER invites you out, when the group is big and mixed, he just doesnt want to spend time with you. you may have a really goofy laugh or do embarrassing things? In the span of two years I have seen his family two times, two hours total. But theres nothing in the letter. Do you think his love for me is fading? Although I am far from perfect, I did nothing wrong. lets_be_honest I understand or rather know some of the multi-layered excuses and reasons they give themselves for excluding me from events, but it doesnt make it right. In my family/friends we are pretty informal, so even its not explicit plus ones are always assumed to be invited. I dont feel so bad for the husband. It wasnt an invitation in the mail. Theres also the chance that hes just being shady as the behavior is not normal and I would expect him to insist on taking you.This could be a red flag of him not being the one for you. Im trying to imagine if my SOs sister hated me and I was unwelcome at her house. Why hasnt the husband asked his sister why you were left off of the invitation? The couple in question fly into town for an engagement party - which they invite us to - we go and celebrate with them, I feel uncomfortable but am still kind and sweet. She provides advice and coaching via Skype, email and phone. Grrr. After 16 to 17 years of that, I felt like he didn't care about me. So, in all honesty, I have NO idea why Im not invited. Even if theres no bad blood between the LW and the SIL, maybe one of the other in-laws is horrible and in order to exclude that person, the SIL has to exclude all spouses. TaraMonster no in-laws, no cousins-by-marriage, no friends, ect.. which is really stupid, to me, im a more the merrier kind of person, but im sure those kinds of people exist. Some people like to get together with their families to celebrate special occasions. January 15, 2013, 10:52 am. Read some of the most popular Dear Wendy posts here. Where would you draw the line though? There must be a reason. Its what I do. Whether you can kind of understand why, or whether you're completely caught off guard, here are a few steps to take to deal with the frustration of not being invited. Sorry, adults who make a big deal out of their birthday annoy me. It stung and the relationship with the person was never the same. He's putting aside any negative feelings he may have toward their mother, not to mention any selfish feelings he may have about being his own man and doing his own thing.. If you have a relationship/dating question I can help answer, you can send me your letters at wendy@dearwendy.com. Because when I think about all the possible background stories here, my advice ranges from divorce your husband, you deserve better to divorce your husband, he deserves better and lots of things inbetween. Add your answer to this question! You helped him with his costume, drove him around for 40mins and only asked once why he didn't invite you? This is the fourth time he did this. January 15, 2013, 4:43 pm. This is why not being invited somewhere can sometimes hurt. ! Could be fun! AS I wrote above your new family the woman you married and perhaps the children you may have should come before your old family in terms of general priorities. If you need to flag this entry as abusive. Im so sorry this is happening, I would feel so betrayed by my husband. Weve had some very stressful times that challenge a marriage but have ultimately made us stronger. My answer remains the same in that the husband should not go, although Id modify it to the SIL and say just dont invite either of them. ), so he goes to see his sister/family and the wife stays home. A phone call specifying you werent invited? Seeeven her own husband is here without her because well obviously she is the problemI would run away from that toxic cauldron. January 15, 2013, 11:17 am. Could it possibly in any way be an oversight, or could she have assumed that you two would know you were also invited? They do it because they are evil and know it and they have to blame the victim. Why doesnt he ask his sister why his wife wasnt invited? Start looking elsewhere. But she left that out, which I think is a little telling. When youre going on about breaking down the integrity of my marriage and my relationship is the foundation of my life, you need an alas. I know that I am not perfect, but neither are they, yet, I have tried very hard to fit in because I really loved them and wanted to be a big part of his family. This is all assuming he had a reason to say such a thing, like you previously and often saying you don't like big parties, refusing to go, complaints, etc. 17. LW, you may have some self reflection in store even if you are totally blameless. You know those people you ask them what they would like to do for their birthday and they are silent then they pout and mope when a big party wasnt thrown. Chime in any time LW, FireStar (10 Tips for Handling This! My administration overlooks me and ignores me as well Doing a little recon helps you see if there is a pattern Even at work On the other hand, extending your chest is a good idea for your flirting skills Most of the time flirts just aren't perceived as flirting Most of the time flirts just aren . It sounds like your husband has already decided what hes going to do and thats to attend his sisters party. The wedding situation seems especially odd because weddings are where two people become a family, so to excluse someone elses spouse on the basis of them not being family at an event where you are becoming a family with your SO is pretty hilariously hypocritical. This is a real possibility that also needs to be investigated. So ask him. 21. My boyfriend of about seven months planned a holiday vacation (to Morocco) without consulting me or considering me. Your. I love partying & all, & I make a big fuss over my friends and loved ones birthdays (with presents, drinks, verbally being excited), but it IS annoying when the birthday man/woman makes a big thing over his or her OWN birthday. I would kick his sorry Ass to the kerb. Katie, I respect that you want to be so drama-free and easy-going about social things. Wendy, dont give marital advice, you seriously have been married for half a second, and by the sounds of your about me section, its been all sweet smelling roses. January 15, 2013, 12:05 pm. You need to have an honest conversation with yourself before you talk to him. Negative feelings may still linger until the LW and SIL have it out and resolve things, but ground rules should be laid before things start getting ugly and ongoingand the first thing should be that neither lady can exclude the other from functions. I have been bullied, excluded, invalidated and mistreated by my husbands siblings. If youre to have a future together, its important you meet his family members and (hopefully) are accepted as an extended member of his family. The LW sounds like she doesnt even care whether she goes to this birthday or not, just that her husband is going without her. Struggling to Understand, Contrary to your friends opinions, boyfriend appears to be close enough to his relatives to go to their family eventsbut not with you. Find someone that wants you at his birthday party. Well I agree with you that her husband going doesnt mean that the SIL has won anything, but I dont think letting him go shows that their marriage is good. I havent asked him to do that because I dont want to put him in that spot.. So, in my mind, if you are being excluded for no good reason then he should stick up for you and not go. Do you think setting him free is good? I might even call your SIL before the party to find out what is up or to finalize flight arrangements as if you ARE goingthen you can suss out whether your husband is not being truthful with you. If the LW did those, then I understand the SILs lack of an invitation. I think she should call the sister-in-law directly and try to find out whether there is a problem. Lots of travel? I guess theres a fine line, but you KNOW it when you see itIm fine with people celebrating (like I said, Im all for partying), but when they make it this giant, super-special thing that you BETTER attend OR ELSE, its kind of self-centered & annoying to me. That just seems so strange. Beer and football with his family? Your boyfriend of a year doesn't invite you to his birthday party he would be my ex boyfriend Delete Report Edit Reported Reply Boost 7 Agree 1 Disagree theattack Sorry, I keep asking you questions. So last week i hung out with him and his friend and watched a movie and then he invited me to his house. January 15, 2013, 10:33 am. Honestly, if the LWs husband stayed in town he would resent her and if she went to the party it would be awkward. Im not saying dont celebrate but Boston to Chicago, really? GatorGirl I picked out most all of the furniture, helped pick out the flowers etc. However, I feel like there is a pretty big reason your SIL is excluding you specifically. Then if he still goes without you you got some serious thinking to do.But when you are doing that serious thinking do it at a very expensive spa weekend. It makes me sad to think that families are so fractured that asking for help is seen as ridiculous. It will do you no good to pace back and forth, wondering if he's going to actually ask you to come along. Really? I do not like this feeling, I actually feel dumb for putting up with it. That made it even harder for me to understand why she hid her upcoming wedding from me. His sister got engaged recently and . I'm wondering if the reason you are not invited is because the friends requested of him to not invite you and he just hasn't told you. 10. If thats the case here, I can definitely see the rudeness. By the end of the couple's destination . Addie Pray I think you just have to be super straightforward. I don't owe them the pleasure of my company., I just turned 60 and none of my family wished me happy birthday on Facebook. he is the broker of peace in between two apparently petty jerky women who go out of their way to slight the other one *through* the husband/brother. does your husband go to Chicago on business? As for how to talk to him, BE HONEST. Only 2 months and 2 days til St. Patricks Day! Take the high road. I spent months putting up with awful attitudes and ridiculous demands (not to mention more than one tear-filled conversation), and that was just *planning* the wedding. 1. For example, the husbands family may dislike her because she is of a different race, religion or culture. January 15, 2013, 9:54 pm. We seek posts from users who have specific and personal relationship quandaries that other redditors can help them try to solve. Please, I need your help to explain to me why my husband does this! We have some issues there, but you know what, I really believe that its important to maintain important relationships. Its just your birthday? That is the risk with drawing a line in the sandsomeone might just cross it. Further, your capitulation to the status quo may be a trait you use often in lifewhich will keep you stuck. The type of function it is should ever ever be an invite to only one partner! And allow him to be honest. Turns out we have more in common than this blog posting. lets_be_honest Invent a healthier future by sharing your truth. If maybe she meant you to mean you both or you two. Sometimes, they might allude to this with other excuses. Itd be nice if he helped (MAYBE HE HAS, WE DONT KNOW), but is it really his job to work out issues between two grown adults?! Not as a girlfriend, not as a friend, not as anyone. And for god sakes, these are your in-laws. with a gushy note and an apology that sorry you couldnt make it as if you were actually invited paid for from your husbands credit card, of course! He should set boundaries in which family recognizes his own family unit. Not even to reply to a tweet. 22. I just happen to come from a family that values independence and self reliance over family means everything. Instead, always make other plans & act as though you could not care less whether he invited you anywhere or not. It just seems less likely that your SIL has some completely unwarranted vendetta against you that your husband is fine with it. Have you ever asked him if you could tag along? Nov. 11 2013 at 6:17 pm. @katie I think that would be the worst thing to do, everything I have read about creating a strong marriage means that the husband should choose the wife or at least they need to come to a decision together and present a united front. I think that your husband should respect YOU first, man up and take you with him whether or not if you are invited. DO mentally prepare yourself. Though I agree with lbh that she knows why (and so does the husband). Cause thats who I am, a bitter stay at home wife of 4 with many many many outside distractions that (if Im not careful) could wreck havoc on my precious delicate marriage. Continue this for a while. Married unit, common front, our family, for better or worse and all that jazz. I think the situation is crappy but we really dont know enough from her letter to tell whether its her being crappy or the SIL (or his entire family). I dont think its wrong for the LW to want her husband to show some allegiance to her. If they didn't want me there but wanted me to sill be involved in their life as partners, they still would have informed me about it before they went. Ok, I think this is more of a rant, but Im really annoyed by it. So if the LW hasnt stole/hit/cheated on the SIL then I think the husband needs to get to the bottom of it. I wouldnt have invited her either. Ive had to fight my way into my in laws family, and they now know that we are a unit and they cant change that. It may just be a party or it may be about the relationship with his sister. Non hereditary Hair loss? Its sad to say, but often the reason a man doesnt invite a partner to his family events is that hes embarrassed or ashamed of them. Has he invited you to parties recently where you were tense and didnt seem like you were enjoying yourself? They are very similar personalities. That way, they'll hopefully have some idea about why you've been left out. Its because the sister in law and the family dont like her!!! ), Im also HIGHLY suspicious that maybe the husband wants to go by himselffor whatever reason? When I turned 40 I had some drinks with a few friends, I certainly wouldnt have been offended or upset at anyone who didnt want to come for any reason, because my birthday is not a big deal. This makes it sound like something is off in a marriage, when one person is this upset and cant even talk to their spouse about it. My FSIL has never liked me, and has done whatever she could to undermine me and try to end our relationship. He knows I am a fan of boxing. They don't shun me because of anything I did. Id like to know who issued the invite. Some are worth putting your foot down about, and some just arent. You told him how you felt and he brushed it off. And I got carded. I love him more than I could ever explain, and I believe that he loves me dearly as well. How to Deal with a Roommate Who Is Inconsiderate: 10 Tips! There could be a million reasons, none of them good. 18. I find it hard to believe LW doesnt know why she was excluded. Here's 22 signs he absolutely, under no circumstances, wants to be your boyfriend. You dont want to make this a messier situation. Im saying Im certain that at the very minimum, Husband, Sister and LW know why she wasnt invited, and I assume there was good reason. January 15, 2013, 9:12 am. Girls keep commenting on his Facebook profile with random in jokes, and you have no idea who they are. Nonsense. If the wife was invited to the SILs 35th birthday, got drunk, said some nasty things, and acted like a jerk I could understand the lack of invite for the 40th birthday. ok. sometimes you dont marry someone who would get involved in drama but you do end up related to them! The SIL could be a racist troll and the LW stands up to her BS during conversations. They have made ridiculous requests of him (like contributing to their bills when we have student loans and a house down payment to save up for), including using his vacation time to clean their attic and him to spend weekends taking care of his grandparents, who refuse to accept Medicaid nursing assistance and insist on family care only. So many little issues come up in marriage. This shouldnt undermine the entire integrity of you marriage. Of course it did. Fancy yourself as an agony aunt? Unless there is a seriously valid reason I would request he doesnt go. Either way it'll be a selfish reason, do not go and enter no contact with him. Theres a lot of pressure there, so combine that with social anxieties, and you have a situation your boyfriend is probably just going to avoid. Its a nice thing to do if the husband tried to smooth things over, but it seems the issue is between the LW and the sister. Hellooooo, Im back and we got no update from the LW? Yeah, I would be offended if my fiances family considered me an outsider after were married. To prove to YOU how committed he is? So, in that sense, yes SIL has won, she has caused LW and her husband to fight and created the situation where husband has accepted her invitation against his wifes wishes. Loud music? Confrontation is never fun, but the LW needs to get to the bottom of this situation for her own personal integrity, and because the situation will escalate in the future. Does the rest of the family exclude her? Tldr: boyfriend failed to invite me to a party tonight even though I mentioned to him this morning that I felt sad about his lack of invitation. I would never, and I do mean never, accept a family invitation sent only to me and not my husband, simply because we are a unit and the strength of our relationship is the foundation of my life; at the end of the day, I come home to my husband, not my extended family. Shame on your husband!!!!! so shouldnt she, then, be the adult in this situation? Everyone in the family you mean? If you wanted to go to the party, then it is okay to say so. I have two brothers and even if I did not like my SIL I would NEVER exclude them from an invite regardless of any incidents that occurred or valid reasons for the slight. If this was a friend dissing you, Id be all over not letting your husband go. I think if it wasnt a valid reason then she would have pursued getting an invite or a reason why not first, then asked her husband to stay home. lets_be_honest A call to the SIL will LIKELY clear it up. I will always go to that party. Some by putting your foot down create large issues that could have been avoided by saying Im going to let this little thing roll off my back. What an excellent response, Wendy! If hes not made your relationship public on social media and youve never met a single member of his family, you have a bigger issue than just not attending events. Fabelle And a potential fight with your husband? To me all it shows his family is that they can still see him whenever they want even if they exclude his wife. January 15, 2013, 3:18 pm. In. You Go Girl We dont have enough information to encourage the high or low road. So the i do except some times i dont would most assuredly clearly signify a question of your commitment your love and your agenda because when you are married you have an unspoken vow that NO ONE SHOULD EVEN HAVE TIME TO ASK ARE YOU GOING that vow isI love you through thick or thinI love you and promise to protect you to walk hand in hand through lifes ups and downsyou didnt promise to go steady.you promised to love and honorso by attendingby not bringing everyone together to find a solution like grown ups by ignoring the BLATENT and very public humiliation of being the family member the other half of your husband the uninvited family member is a passive aggressive public humiliation and your attendance is a clear choice to side with hurting you. Are you for real? so, instead of being around a bunch of people I do not know or my children (our children dont know her either, which is my problem with her) do not know. We are honest about it and that's why it works. Having a "Guys" night. If they dont it really is just an issue with this SIL and in that case it is worth it? Wow.So many comments.All I have to ask is what is the real backstory on you and his sister? I am writing to you in the throes of what I would consider to be a very upsetting fight with my boyfriend. But, you don't want to then walk around resenting the party host, or even having negative feelings toward other friends of yours who attended the party despite your lack of invitation. Roommate Stays in Room All Day? If you want to remain uninvolved because you are not invested in either side or you dont want to upset anyone. There is no time or room in your life for people that do not have regard for your feelings. He shouldnt have to drop his family, no, but he should makes moves to defend his wife & take a stand against unnecessary exclusions (again, IF the reason is anything other than what GG mentioned abovestealing, hitting, etc.). January 15, 2013, 9:32 am. January 15, 2013, 9:31 am. 40 is half way to death (assuming youre lucky enough to make it to 80). Id be curious to hear your SILs side why shes excluding her brothers wife to an important event. the husbands family hated his mom for whatever reason, and so she just stopped going to FL when they went to visit. And the challenges are easier to handle when youre in a better mood. I asked him why he didnt say anything in my defense, or to ask why I wasnt invited and he just brushed it off and excused her by saying oh she doesnt know how to talk! Sometimes you need to have fun with other people or on your own, that's fine. This does not seem like an event that I would take a stand on. Family tends to be able to see those things. 1. Absolutely agreed on them working on communication, but it's still totally a two-way street here, in general and in this circumstance. I have a very demanding sister that tends to grate on my fiances nerves. You have broken your marriage vows and I am unsure of who you are now. (You know that old saying that in order to have friends you first have to be one.) You aint gonna be the next Kim and Kanye with a fool like him Nope. OH. Obviously things dont go as well when you are there since you arent upset that you didnt get invited- just that your husband is going. Not fine. P.S. To insinuate she has a responsibility to force her way in sohe doesnt start thinking she doesnt care about him (?) That is pretty far out of the way to go to something your spouse wasnt invited to. You want to go to this event because you want to be a part of your husbands extended family, than do it. But I expect adults to be able to act maturely and not exclude a family member from an invitation for something petty. /r/Relationships is a community built around helping people and the goal of providing a platform for interpersonal relationship advice between redditors. Yes it was rude of them to not invite you. Maybe you can meet individual members of his family so its not such an event meeting everyone at the same time. Most people in families care about each other and want to help each other. Well, they finally have showed their true colors to him. Which might lead to mended fences, who knows? Even if they knew her boyfriend was going? Anyways, we battle on together to keep our family united. Dont wait for this all to blow over because it wont, and it will just get worse, as the in laws will see this as just a sign that you dont care. Nothing. Once were married (and even now but I know for some people its not) were each others #1 priority. i just remember being so puzzled as to why she was so upset about it, JK OR CATS FIND THAT LETTER AND ITS UPDATE!! If you become hubbys sex kitten, the alley cat might purr foryou! That's definitely not a good reason either, but don't accuse him of something just in case it wasn't his fault you weren't invited. GatorGirl So, message received. But to let your SO do so much (or expect it) and then still not invite them - even after they ask about it - is just super rude. They gave his ex a hard time too and enjoyed having him around alone without bringing her to parties or get togethers. I LOATHE my nasty, manipulative sister-in-law, her redneck sons, and their not-very-bright offspring, and must avoid discussions about them with my husband. Uh huh. I think ensuring that your family isnt homeless is drastically different from requesting that they spend your vacation time cleaning their attic. January 15, 2013, 10:39 am. Theyre just bitter, unhappy, horrible people. SHE is his primary family now. Does it get to be different if its Christmas, his mom is alcoholic, thinks his adult boys are too fragile to see their dad with anyone 7 years post divorce? Copyright 2023 Dear Wendy. So be honest with yourself about why youve been excluded. Dan and his fiance were busy with that, so we didn't see much of them over. 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