"For many of you, he was preacher, pastor, mentor or friend. WebIt is with heavy hearts that the Elders of Bent Tree announce that Pete Briscoe has submitted his resignation as Senior Pastor. So you can go to Amazon and enter in Boz Tchividjian and his book will pop up but you need to know what youre looking for because people who are sexual predators, they have an acuity for blending into society in ways that they dont stand out like this is not like, you know, the sexual predator in your church is not some, you know, grease ball sitting outside your kids ministry just kind of looking for a way to get at, like, thats our common image of what a sexual predator is. Do we have a theology of goodness at our church? Yeah, were all saints who sometimes sin. As I look back on my own four years on staff, Im thankful for the teaching and leadership that Pete Briscoe has brought to Bent Tree, and I know that so many of us have been impacted by his attention to the Lord and quick obedience to however God leads him. Much has been written on establishing criteria for board member selection. I was the senior pastor of Bent Tree Bible Fellowship for nearly 30 years. Its about serving God. I dont know. I thought that emails could always be recovered, even after being erased, by a good IT person. Id like to share a few things as we navigate this loss together. Welcome to the Roys report, a podcast dedicated to reporting the truth and restoring the church. Pete Briscoe, our pastor at our church came out in support of the Dyers, which was bold, and it was brave. Today, Telling the Truthis heard anytime and anywhere, thanks to international radio programming, the internet, and our mobile app. We were talking a little bit about the elder board. We needed to go to the hills and fight as guerillas, you know, what is guerrilla warfare? Heres my belief, Julie, I think the church at large, the big leaders in evangelicalism, we can name names if we want to, and Im sure that people have names on their mind when theyre hearing this, Why were they silent? You have to have a strong culture of accountability. So, and youre the chairman of your board. This is what manifests. Hi Julie, my name is Teresa and I was wondering if Voice of the Martyr was a good place to donate. And if you think its not, you know, go and look in your church building right now, if youre quarantined under COVID, or youre not gathering. Yes, in the course of representing these women, it became obvious that this was not what Ill call an echelon or tier leadership problem, just at Bill Hybels level. This is simply a place where I share the message of Gods unadulterated grace through my preaching sermons and bible teaching. And then everyone could say, Oh, how sad that that one person did that one thing. Absolutely horrible. There was a period of time, Ill call, The Great Loneliness after that Chicago Tribune article came out, where they were radioactive. Let the Briscoes help you experience Life in all its fullness! And thats what, thats what you end up protecting right? And this is a huge problem in the Evangelical Church in the southern baptist church, I mean, just absolutely massive problem where so often the predators covered up instead of brought to justice. I think one of the ways that Willow tried to reckon with the situation was to permit Bill Hybels to retire from his role at the church. But it was after a period of I dont know the details, and I dont know how much youre at liberty to say them, but its my understanding he went away for a period of time to kind of reflect and assess how he was doing and how he was handling things. The news of Petes resignation landed heavy on my heart. It was stunning to me. Not sad or contemplative, but agitated and very irritated. And I was sitting in my office one day and Vonda picked up the phone and gave me a call and kind of told me what was coming down the pike in terms of the Chicago Tribune article that basically lit the fuse on that entire situation at Willow. Fifteen years later, I joined staff at Bent Tree. Lets say you have you have six or eight members who are saying, Guys, we need to fire this person. And that that was something that taught you an awful lot about how elder board should deal with sexual impropriety or sexual abuse within their own walls. When you have a woman who says I was molested by a staff member, or you have a staff member who says, Bill Hybels just threw a punch at me, or dog cuts me up and down the hallway, those arent matters of policy, Julie. He now coaches Pete Briscoe | Brookfield WI. And I really was hopeful that there was going to be a public apology, and yet, None. Keep in touch with Julie and get updates in your inbox! I mean, I Timothy 5:20 says that we should publicly expose elders who are sinning so that others may take warning. Basically, theyre a rubber stamp. ) So, Willows pride did not allow them to see any flaws in their leadership, especially their premier leader. Pete Briscoes father, Stuart Briscoe, who I loved dearly, hes not in good health, I wish he was, I wish he could hear this and Id wish him well. God uses the weak things of this world to confound the strong, right? (etc. Well, and thanks so much for listening to The Roys Report, a podcast dedicated to reporting the truth and restoring the church. I am thrilled to be here. WebBriscoe says that he wants Bent Tree to be a place where people can agree to disagree over this issue. Character always has to come first in hiring, then competence, and then chemistry. How do you get people to come to church when there are more authentic people in the bars? To me, this was one of the beautiful God moves about the entire situation. But so far, I havent seen that. Now, I coach pastors and business leaders in communications and self-care. To me, Bill did not come across as a predator, flirty or suggestive with women. You can read about them at their website Teaching the Truth. And he realized that he had missed an opportunity to share Christs love with this person, and he didnt even feel worthy to give this message tonight, you know, and he got teared up and, and Im watching this, you know, as a 20, early 20 something right? This is the kind of thing that you would expect from someone whos cruel and not in relationship with Jesus. Then, I did what all good Christian college students did at that time I acquired a boot-leg copy of the drama and listened to it several times on my own. WebSince that time he has ministered on every continent, written more than 40 books, pastored a church for 30 years, and founded a media ministry called Telling the Truth which now broadcasts daily worldwide. Also, make sure you subscribe to The Roys Report on Apple podcasts or Google podcasts. And really, I came back to the Lord at Willow and He used that church to help me reestablish my relationship with Him and with His church. In the early 2000s, as Stuart and Jill transitioned into minister-at-large roles and spent more time traveling to serve the global church, an additional voice was added in order to bless the supporters ofTelling the Truth. So Mitch, thank you so much for taking the time to join me today. (See page 54 and following) Yeah, yeah, I think I think thats a good word to Julie. Is that right? And there was also a service at WC where the board interviewed him and was he was questioned about an affair. I have been a child of God since I was four and in ministry most of my life. Briscoe stepped down as senior pastor at the end of 2000 but remained involved in the church and active in overseas missions. I wasnt throughout the representation. Guest Bios Show Transcript Spiritual abuse has become an increasingly hot topic, as more and more stories of bully pastors and hyper-controlling, Guest Bios Show Transcript After years spent in an abusive church, how do you heal? The radio program began to attract listeners and supporters, enabling the ministry to expand its broadcasting to a growing number of stations throughout the United States and abroad. And if youd like to find me online, just go to JulieRoys.com. And so when you see behaviors that look like grooming, you know, John Calvin, Im not a Calvinist. He even cites a conversation with Darrell Bock, a member who disagrees with the elders but who also says it is not an issue worth dividing over. Well, again, Joining me today is Mitch Little a partner with Scheef & Stone in Frisco, Texas. Bill Hybels and Bill Clinton, you know, developed a friendship over the years that at least what Ive discovered in my research, there was an invitation for Clinton to come and speak at the Global Leadership Summit, and a confrontation with the elder board about that because Clinton was on the heels of an adultery scandal. Right. So disappointed in ECFA. He, Becky and their kids have been part of the fabric of BT for so long, it is Your browser does not support JavaScript. I was kind of thrust into the middle of it out of love for wanting to help my friends and man, that thing escalated pretty quickly. So glad to see you feature Mitch Little. So grateful for those who did and Scot McKnight who came out with a just a powerful, I remember when his blog hit and he said, Every elder has to resign. And within what, wasnt it a week, all of them resigned. Also, any comments with profanity, name-calling, and/or a nasty tone will be deleted. Hi. Julie, thats whats so interesting about this story to me as I got deeper into it, I started to understand That, you know, when you go to the movies, and you see a story, you expect, okay, that guys the villain. Everyone I knew from childhoodparents, grandparents, pastors, Sunday School teacherswas upright and honest. I would love to see Chicago experience revival. Hes also the chairman of the elder board and his own church, Bent Tree Fellowship. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive a copy of Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. They show up, they sell books. Senior pastors dont need advocates. The church is nondenominational and has woman pastors and elders. Like so many of you, I love Pete. I cant vouch for all the information because I havent researched it myself. He now coaches Pete Briscoe | Brookfield WI. Mitch is an attorney, a church elder and an advocate for abuse victims. Now, God is leading our friend and leader Pete away from these walls, and we look on with sadness the sadness that comes when a season you love is passing. WebSince that time he has ministered on every continent, written more than 40 books, pastored a church for 30 years, and founded a media ministry called Telling the Truth which now broadcasts daily worldwide. And to do that, we must avoid falling into the trap of our Christian beliefs being pitted against culture in the public sphere of debate. And heres what we have to do as people leading churches, okay, you have to understand what the signs of grooming are so one of the things that I did that really helps me, my good friend, Boz Tchividjian, put out a book through his organization G.R.A.C.E. Jill But heres what happened when Scot criticized them publicly. About Stuart and Jill Briscoe Theres another circumstance that I became aware of where The board had a 360 Review done on Hybels and his leadership and some problems they were experiencing with his management style from, you know, bullying, abusive style. Happened so often, I quit altogether. Pete was preaching from Hebrews, and he was making the New Covenant come alive before all of us. WebLearn More About Pete Today - Pete Briscoe God loves you to distraction, There is nothing you can do to make Him love them more or less, And, that Life with this Lover God is rich beyond description, regardless of your performance. And today Im excited to be speaking with Mitch Little. These are people that are in your country club. For the next 90 minutes, Pete Briscoe enraptured us with his presentation of The Bema. I was blown away. I think its incredibly dangerous. Hes also a strong believer and advocate for abuse victims. He currently leads a multi-faceted media ministry called Telling the Truth which he shares with his parents Stuart and Jill Briscoe. However, there should be a bubble level of character in Christ that we return to. None at all. But essentially, it was the board being asked to deal with matters of policy and then all matters of implementation really get left to the vocational staff in the church. They made a lot of friends a lot of money over the years selling books, promoting programs, platforming them at conferences, platforming them at the Global Leadership Summit. So many people are looking the other way. It was a huge fixture in evangelicalism. But this is the beauty of I think whats arisen is an independent media. The other thing I wanted to talk to you about in you mentioned this in earlier discussion we had about the identity of elders and how so often, and I dont think its just elders, I think its a lot of the senior pastor leadership and staff that their identity tends to become enmeshed with the success or failure of the organization theyre a part of. Again, thanks so much for joining me today. When you think about the economic reach of an organization that was that size within evangelicalism, my goodness, even Christianity Today was scared to run articles about it. The Journal Sentinel reported: Elmbrook resignations are the latest to rock evangelical Christian churches. That is a very fair question. I was blown away. I mean, you dont need to be trying to fit a round peg into a square hole, because it is gonna manifest itself in bad ways. But I have to say that in the middle of dealing with a lot of tall weeds and bugs, God has also given me some flowers and fruit trees to enjoy. I think they can do it effectively. I just want to say this was not someone who acted on any behavior at our church, but had someone who was in the process of grooming someone else. And that needs to be an elder in the church really any size, you need to say, Look, I see what youre doing this is wrong. And when the person makes excuses or says, You know, this is a misunderstanding, I didnt mean to, you know, message that kid inappropriately online, or I didnt mean to Invite them to go do something by ourselves out of, you know, trying to do something bad. This is just the way things are in Corinth. But then its my understanding too, that when these women met with the elders, the level of bullying and abuse that they were subjected to, was such that I know Vonda told me there were elders in tears at the end of this, of how pervasive the abuse was, I dont know how specific you can be but can you give people an idea of, of what actually happened to these women that were abused? I appreciate you so much and look forward to visiting with you again soon. But you lose the guarding mechanism, which I think in todays in todays cultural moment, its probably the most important aspect of eldering. Judson is located just 36 miles outside Chicago on a beautiful 90 acre campus. This is a person who is pushing a boundary because they want to do something bad. WebHi friend, I'm Pete Briscoe. Its not okay. These are people that may be in the cubicle next to you at work, who have an acuity for blending in to normal life. Pete grew up in a home with intelligent and committed parents: both Briscoe says that he wants Bent Tree to be a place where people can agree to disagree over this issue. I want to thank Pete too for advocating for women participating fully in leadership and for Libby modeling what it means to be a true helper (ezer kenegdo). We were fighting asymmetric warfare, right? Continue Reading The Upper Room: John 15 Posted by Nate Murray WebLearn More About Pete Today - Pete Briscoe God loves you to distraction, There is nothing you can do to make Him love them more or less, And, that Life with this Lover God is rich beyond description, regardless of your performance. I think the load needs to be shared. When I came onto our board, the terms that Pete Briscoe used were, guide, govern and guard. And I think policy governance has the governing part. Yeah, apparently its not going to happen. It is simply to feed ourselves. It is. Well, since you brought it up, youre gonna youre gonna have to address the Vanilla Bean. I agree, Pastor Bob. He is with us today to talk about growing communication skills to improve preaching as well as how we can find deeper fulfillment in our work and lives. If you go back through Willow Creeks archives, you can see all the, you know, the authors of books who came in and were platformed at Willow Creek. There were some areas or some some critical times when things could have gone differently, but the elders caved in essence to Bill Hybels. Theyve got a little bit of the guide part. Basically, theyre a rubber stamp., Julie, I have a different take on what happened at WCC. God showed him through that sermon how his trip was actually isolating and began a process of transformation. But youre right. It is also the church in which Pete Briscoe, my former wonderful pastor, grew up in. Jill And that was how Bill deformed his accountability structure. Stuart Briscoe died on August 3 "of natural causes unexpectedly" according to a tweet from his son, Pete Briscoe. Pete grew up in a home with intelligent and committed parents: both I appreciate your feedback. And so when you know from the pulpit, that might be a strength. I hear you say that and I believe in accountability really strongly. Can you imagine how many books that sold her? Bent Tree family and friends of Bent Tree, we invite you to post here (or on social media) your comments of encouragement, gratitude, blessing, remembrance, and tribute to the many long years our brother Pete and sister Libby have poured out their lives for the building up of Christs church. Growing up in a ministry family, Pete watched and learned from his parents and witnessed the reach and power of Telling the Truth 's media outreach. When the when the mans lying on the side of the road, naked and bleeding, theyre the priests who cross the street. To us, he was Stu, Dad and Poppa and we already miss him achingly." Well, early on in the process after the Tribune article, we had to make a decision, How are we going to fight a machine of this size that is basically promulgating lies about these women and their families and their supporters? And I reached out to people that I already knew within, you know, the watch blogging community. Yeah, without using any names. 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