Smart Football did an excellent write up on the Hokies robber and 4-4G. Also BF has talked about wanting to change the "DNA" of our DL referencing Ala. and LSU's D-lines. Antone Exum is moving forward at the snap, and both Exum and Hosley end up making the tackle along with Luther Maddy. The Whip and Free Safety were more weak side players, so they would usually align to the weak side of the formation. On the other side, teams could get favorable running game match-ups by running to the boundary. Whip: The Whip (Kyle Fuller) lines up wide, but well to the inside of the slot. The primary reason why more teams dont try to run this type of scheme is because of the inability to find the two swing players however, and you need them to play against spread teams. Now, he will get a jump start at Ohio State, where he will always have a talent advantage over the best Big Ten schools. VT shifts their G front to the Field side as well into a 4-3, whether its weak or strong, which gives them 3 fronts in the base package. Hokie defensive linemen are required to have a unique ability to sometimes cover gaps that are far from where they line up, while maintaining leverage in order to prevent being knocked backwards by an offensive lineman. His initial alignment is quite often in the box, but he doesnt get up on the LOS as much as the WHIP. His upside is higher than Collins, but Collins is a much more instinctual player at this point. 1. Attack Defense Bud Foster Defensive Coordinator Virginia Polytechnic Institute Blacksburg, Va. Jim Cavanaugh Outside Linebackers Lou West Secondary Charlie Wiles Defensive Line Diagram 2 These coverages have the goal of taking away the crossing routes over the middle and the post route that is used to attack C2 defenses, but also keep a guy relatively close to the LOS to help with the run, or running QBs. Hop, Bruce, and JGW) and as possibly causing fatigue later in the year if the guys aren't in shape? Nuk Hopkins is usually a Boundary-side WR, so he gets the Boundary CB most of the time. pretty cool to look back on it from time to time. Did Jim Harbaugh out scheme us, did we execute poorly, or were we outmanned? The Hokies showed a blitz up front, and Jayron showed a cover 3 look by bailing out and back pedaling before the snap. The attack from the DL is the next step, but they have to achieve their gap fit first. against Stanford in the OB? Maddy is going to have to really step it up to be the starter. Drawing on the scheme's nickel roots gives 4-2-5 teams the ability to run a divorced front concept. So complimenting it with the Bear front gives you the choice of going Even or Odd with a stem (pre-snap shift). As covered in Part 1, the Tech defense aligns based on ball position relative to the hash marks. In th defense now, the free safety and the whip are essentially interchangable. I have not watched any tape of Miami vs Georgia Tech, so I am not sure if they make any specific adjustments from their normal scheme, but they certainly have the Yellow Jackets pegged. When they play 46 front, its mostly man/man, because its a pressure front like the Under we use. It was a very clever scheme because it could be adjusted to a pass oriented defense by slipping the two outside linebackers (the Whip and Rover) into coverage as defensive backs. Again, the tackle will rarely be in position to make the tackle, but must minimally plug up the gap, causing the back to look to cut back to the 1 gap. Hopefully he has a breakthrough year. Yet, unlike most stunts and blitzes where the defensive player is trying to shake loose to make a play, the Foster gap defense still requires the players who were stunting to maintain responsibility for their assigned gap. Through the first half, Andre Ellington was averaging like 1.3 yards a carry with 23 yards total. (Dave Knachel/Virginia Tech athletics) Article It's a season of transition. As for NFL caliber lineman. It defintely helps to have depth regardless of the scheme, but depth and ability in the scheme only make it better. Body positioning, angle of alignment, depth of alignment, how to come off the snap (use of hands, proper footwork, etc), reading each individual key, reacting properly to those keys, proper pursuit angle, tackling technique.that is just a short list of things that the players must focus on correctly as a unit for the defense to be successful on any given play. Virginia Tech defensive coordinator Bud Foster, who announced Thursday he would be retiring at the end of this his 33rd season, is the longest continually tenured assistant at the same school in . It is actually a base 4-4 front. Even the best (Brown- moved to LB, Worilds- moved to LB, Tapp- non-descript backup, Engleberger-bust, Moore- bust, Price- nada) didn't make an impact. What do you mean by "radical stunting"? The movement ideally allows three Hokies to be unblocked, versus depending on the physical ability of the defensive line to beat each of their blocks at the point of attack. *U# N)qQ/y(H"hVt kf@^L;,R?P0;|v44 JFC=zYh AWEBYl5I[.X@v6UQV@_msY)Ng1KhZ/Y)va+XsM =_ewrr\|2Q)/zN]N}q_r{f-wvw)1,Z )$fy86g8@ZtqI,dX& ^twn*g$b{xoa.WwDWZflk1g,JIEfPO[h-H( ,AdYp[fuNP&SuhZs`um%?HSpQ1Y. So obviously if it doesn't work the scheme breaks down because it also means not being able to pressure the offense and the QB into poor decisions. Worilds was moved to OLB and by the accounts of Steelers insiders, has struggled with the transition to a 3-4 look. Remember getting gashed repeatedly by just about everybody we played? Urban Meyer fell behind LSU and Alabama in recruiting, and magically his health is at risk and he gets out. Meanwhile, the defensive linemen must be quick enough and flexible enough to slant heavily (sometimes 2 gaps) each way, which lends itself to short, stocky defensive tackles whocan get to a spot then hold their gap responsibility. You have heard the laundry list of coverage terms, but what do they mean? .". And, you are also correct about Taylor. If healthy, this year's defense is going to be quite different. UNC had those guys, FSU has those guys, and that is about it in the SEC. Shop fresh Hokies gear at TKP sponsor Homefield. . Clear as mud right? Most teams go play side or bootleg with play action, but Clemson (in old 1930's single-wing style) would have the Tajh fake, then continue to waggle a step playside. The Mike is over the center. Everyone, especially play side, must at least stalemate their blocker in their gap. The wide side is called the field and the short side is called the boundary. It wasn't ideal. One breakdown or miscommunication and the other team could be in the end zone. It is actually not a 4-3 base, as its introduced on your TV sets, but is a 4-4 front that has morphed into using 4-3 personnel. Containment often fell onto the shoulders of the Whip LB, a hybrid player that was part linebacker and part safety. The Backer disguises, looking like he is scraping play-side, but in reality, he is filling the interior of the 6 gap. This post gave me a good chuckle. Offensive schemes do the same. this is the best stuff and why i love TKP .. i know that teams use our schemes against us in recruiting but i love how the giants and their smaller, more athletic dline core, is being looked at by coach bud. 8 Ohio State with schemes used by Defensive Coordinator Bud Foster,. What about that sign board with numbers like 21 or 11? Join the community. TSL) is an independent publication that is in no way affiliated with or sponsored by Virginia Tech or the Virginia Tech Athletic Department. If you compare how offensive schemes don't really hurt a recruits ability to make it to the NFL, why should a defensive scheme hurt us too? Sometimes shifts and motion will force the defense to tip its hand. The one-gap 4-3 is a little more similar to the Hokies in that each defensive front 7 has gap responsibility, but in the NFL almost never does the radical stunting that the Hokies perform (the NFL lines are good enough to adjust and drive the stunting linemen off the ball.). What VT wants to do to you is show the 8 man front, and force you to go into max-protect blocking, and then peel those extra 2 guys back into Cover 4. Watching film of South Carolina against Clemson, South Carolina absolutely manhandled the Clemson OL, the same OL that manhandled the Hokies in the 2nd half of the ACC CG. The architect of Tech's famed Lunch Pail Defense, Foster was the longest continually tenured FBS assistant coach at the same school at the time of his retirement in 2019. The most common is a walked out position on weakside slots, but he can also align deeper at 3x5 or almost as deep as the FS. Bud Foster called this scheme his "attack defense" but the base alignments were 8 man front's following the model of the famed Buddy Ryan 46 defense used by the Bears and Eagles in the 80's. Oh, and lets not forget the secret weapon. Mr. Hokie Cody Grimm was moved to the secondary (which is funny given that pass coverage was his greatest weakness as a Hokie.) He had to make the Rover less a run-defender and more of a full-time DB, a SS in laymans terms. TechSideline.Com Coles scored on that long TD. Great stuff as always French. Remember that what I am describing in this series is at the 5,000 foot level. but as mentioned, the type of dt's vt uses are small, quick guys so some guys that might be more nfl types wouldn't fit what bud is asking his guys to do. That was generally the wide side of the field as well, so the Backer or Rover had to cover a faster, quicker player out in open space. The offense uses those techniques to get a better read on what the defense may be doing. 20102023, Orange and Maroon Media, LLC. It is definitely not a finesse sport. For that reason, some teams found success by running weak side out of those spread formations. They have to have the frame and natural instinct. At the time, there was a lot of discussion about the changes, both from the coaches directly and from others close to the program. JWG goes to fill the gap, but the tight end takes him off his feet. Finally, the ball is snapped and the play runs to completion, most likely in five seconds or less. In obvious passing situations, the Hokies would shift to a base 4-3-4 look by dropping the Whip as the second safety. They just dont have the special players they used to get at those hybrid spots and DE, which they always used to have. I saw that and knew we were in trouble. Hopefully Logan will have improved his accuracy to be able to make them pay for it. Game situation includes things like score, wind / weather conditions and time remaining on the clock. Because the line is flowing play-side, the Whip should be unblocked and should go directly to the ball-carrier. But after several seasons of getting pounded into the turf by the Tech defense, teams began to spread things out and use more 3-4 wide receiver formations to isolate certain match-ups. Based on what you said, don't the DL's all "tie" up the lines in both Bud scheme and the traditional pro-scheme? -Bud Foster. Our DL has way more play making responsibility in the run game than a traditional 4-3 where at least 2 of the linemen are expected to eat double blocks and free up the linebackers. However, what VT does is very different from TCU and here well showcase the fronts and coverages VT likes the most. From what I've heard, a lot of the negative recruiting emphasizes that in Tech's defense a DE or OLB (Whip), for example, isn't a traditional NFL DE or OLB. There are a ton of details that are critical for the defense to execute properly. . (Please note, the Hokies may use letters or other terminology to identify each gap.). His initial spot is 3x5 off the TE, reading the #2 receiver. Backer: The Backer (Tariq Edwards) lines at the same depth as the mike but in the guard tackle gap. Actually Clemson's D is not going to be all that different than what it was last year except that Venable is simplifying it without all the checks and stuff. That is really the key to the front. They made popular the "G" front and took the 1985 Bears 46 defensive front as a compliment, which Tech would call the "Tuff" package. Presented by, Click here to access all three parts of the Hokie Defense series by Raleigh Hokie. At the time, the Whip and Rover were described as hybrid players that had combination linebacker/defensive back responsibilities. Nekos was pretty average size for a Hokie DE (McCray is the biggest it seems like we have had since Chris Ellis), but neither Brown nor Graves fit the new prototype of NFL type 6'6 265 DE's and 6'4 310 3-4 DE's or 4-3 DT's that we see in the SEC. Because its Even, the Center is totally uncovered. Graves certainly was an outlier as far as his girth, along with Jim Davis, but the vast majority of VT tackles are shaped like trashcans. With deep safety help, Hosley stopped his back pedal and planted on the snap, and he stepped in front of the quick curl and picked off the pass to seal the game. If those guys don't need much safety help, then the corners can take chances, bait QB's and mix in robber coverages to get turnovers. d88$FQ &~g?Waj }4;{S=Gg``YoF2a2XCTH#?:]=e1sp=$3_ S??oB/r~u6n?o'tm{ iu e*g[3mcXX_ endstream endobj 7 0 obj 859 endobj 12 0 obj << /Length 13 0 R /Filter /FlateDecode >> stream Damn shame if you ask me. Without the post-2003 adjustments, there would have been many plays where Rouse would have been isolated in man coverage against the slot receiver. Clemson Basketball: 2014 Scholarship Roster. He can have a SS build and sometimes aligns deeper, like the FS. In other words, without changing the base personnel, it was a scheme that could adjust play to play from a run stopping 8-in-the-box set to a strong pass stopping set with five defensive backs (Whip, Rover, Field Corner, Boundary Corner, Free Safety). In addition, they know the personnel group and the pre-snap formation. Boise and Stanford both targeted the safeties. I think the weakness that was exposed by Clemson is that if a team can set up play action by running the ball effectively, the whip and the safeties have to cover their gap fill responsibility before reacting to a pass route. The wide tackle six and the gap defense were used by Foster specifically because they didn't have the athletes to play SEC style, line up our best athletes against yours, and beat you football. Hell Charley Wiles even stated that one thing he was challenging Antoine Hopkins on last August was making plays out of his alignment, i.e. Maybe an example would work here. Other teams began to use a lot of quick passes and/or maximum protection blocking schemes to counter Techs blitz tendencies. In this installment of the series, we will cover the general concepts of Bud Fosters defensive scheme, including how offensive personnel and formation impact defensive alignments and responsibilities. The Hopkins brothers, Maddy, and looking back at Barry Booker, Jonathan Lewis, and others all sort of fit that mold. What's considered non-radical? Guys like Acree don't fit, and I do not think for a second that the "four defensive end" alignment that we heard about in the spring will be used at any time other than on passing down and distance plays.Guys like Zach McCray and JR Collins, while big enough to play DT in a pinch, are too long to really be effective on those interior stunts (that is one of the reasons that Nick Acree was never a favorite of Charley Wiles.). He does not have to be a big guy, but he does have to have a very high motor. Note with that pre-snap look, it would be difficult for the QB to read the coverage (is it man or is it zone?). Even more bedeviling to teams that use pro-style running games, Foster uses a huge variety of stunts, hard slants, and linebacker blitzes to "funnel" the ball carrier right into an unblocked defensive player. 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