[7]. Given that the vast majority of passengers dont really care what the brand is, do GBR really need a brand? Because it's not going to be the same as BR. Not sure but I was also thinking of the winding up arrangements that would've taken place at privatisation i.e. The Blue Pullman sets retained their livery of Nanking Blue (albeit with full yellow ends) until 1969 when they were repainted in the reversed grey and blue livery. In 1964, as part of a plan to develop a new corporate image for British Railways, a number of experiments were tried; Discussions on the livery for British Railways coaching stock in 1948 eventually settled on a network-wide two-tone livery of crimson and cream for corridor coaches, with all-over crimson being used for local, non-corridor stock. Later regional variations included some interesting changes for the Class8P passenger types in particular. The system just looks like a disparate random mish mash of different organisations each running trains in their own way. The name is still awful though and far too long. It is not necessary to have it on platform signs as if you don't know you are on the railway when you see them there probably isn't much hope for you. A later version made minor changes to the livery, the main one of which was to darken the main shade of blue used. The first and second MKC signs are pretty classy and look good. I'm not aware - what are TfW doing? Erm are you sure about that? In 1977 two Class 47 locomotives, 47163 and 47164, were painted by Stratford TMD with silver roofs and other decorations including a full body height Union Flag on each side, in celebration of Queen Elizabeth II's silver jubilee. I said this on another thread, but this is definitely a more appropriate one. It's not going to be called Rail England and if it was, there'd be nothing "Queen Nicola" could do about it. Thus Class 47 47170 County of Norfolk, allocated to Stratford and a regular performer on trains between Liverpool Street and Norwich, was painted in Large Logo livery. The signs look good, if a bit bland and functional. So even if that doesn't become the actual 'GBR' logo it will likely see some use on stations and maybe trains. Messages: 1,398. Instead, I just added an icon next to the full text and removed it from the main station name. A railway works best as a single unit. It may not display this or other websites correctly. I think in Germany it is done by using the "TOC" name in place of IC etc. The WilliamsShapps plan recommended that there will be a single, unifying brand for railways, and it is expected that this will be a gradual rebranding over time. I think you are mixing up ownership with some form of ideological uniformity. Unfortunately, there is little sign that Beattie actually intends to do anything differently, in this regard at least, to the Democratic Unionists he hopes to supplant. Here is some variants of my original 'swallow inspired' design. You are using an out of date browser. I still think" Great British Railways" will be mostly likely be termed GBR, most of the time. Non-corridor coaching stock and other multiple units received all-over Rail Blue until about 1980, when most received the same blue/grey livery as corridor coaching stock. The 4REP and 3/4TC EMUs were a notable oddity, initially receiving all-over Rail Blue despite being express corridor stock. Beattie acknowledges how Ulsters separate unionist parties weaken the Union. The devolved administrations, the combined authorities, and the Greater London Authority will continue to exercise their current powers, such as setting fares and awarding contracts, and will remain democratically accountable for this. "Great" means "large", not "very good". After contacting GBRTT (Transition Team), I have been informed of their intention to create a new livery. If it was, that format would not be used by: If you need any proof, they've also just done the same with 'Great British Nuclear'. It still has to look good decades from now. Then why was the old version called British Railways, not Great British Railways, and why the change now for the new version if British Railways worked . The current lot is an absolute mess. Livery Guide Great Western Railways/British Railway Western Region. The rail system is no more a public service than coach companies or supermarkets. Multiple units were also generally green, although this tended to be a lighter and bluer shade compared to the colour used on steam and diesel locomotives. On the face of it, this is primarily a reorganisation of the franchise system in England control over passenger franchises in Scotland and Wales is, alas, devolved. But do we really want to go back to that? I'd go along with that from a "looks right" perspective, but it would be almost impossible to see from (for instance) inside a train in darkness. Oct 22, 2021 All that remains, is to remember the man who made the Journey possible; the greatest engineer of all time and the architect who built modern Britain - Isambard Kingdom Brunel. It is known as Great because it is the largest island in the British Isles, and houses the countries of England, Scotland and Wales within its shores. InterCity (or, in the earliest days, the hyphenated Inter-City) was introduced by British Rail in 1966 as a brand-name for its long-haul express passenger services (see British Rail brand names for a full history).. A High Speed Train power car (loco) and coach in InterCity swallow livery. don't see an issue anywhere, as long as the concessions stay branded with whatever. Wrap yourself up in the flag and sing rule Brittania. [17] This livery is also often nicknamed 'toothpaste livery' by rail enthusiasts due to the multicoloured stripes resembling striped toothpaste. This page was last edited on 28 January 2023, at 18:28. A livery, similar to ScotRail but with the upper dark grey bodyside replaced with a dark blue, was created. The final decision was to be made later in 2022,[16] but the result has not been announced as of February 2023. In response to this announcement, the Great British Railways Transition Team is looking at changes to support the development of the new industry structure, and considering ways in which the current system can be simplified and improved. Sponsor Post - registered members do not see these adverts; Im unsure about the livery as such, but if Great British Railways is taken forward, Id expect GBR to feature. Not the terms I would have used but I see where you might get that impression. Steam locomotive 61306 Mayflower seen just outside Sittingbourne, Kent at lunchtime today. It highlighted different ways in which Westminster could invest in Britains strategic transport network to better-integrate the nation. Suffice to say, an actual English nationalist would not be passing controversial legislation to enable Westminster to spend even more money on Northern Ireland, as this Government is. The livery was applied only to some Class 309 "Clacton" units on the former Eastern Region and to a few of Classes 411 (4Cep), 419 (MLV) and 421 (4Cig) on the former Southern Region. A number of sets of coaching stock and a handful of locomotives received the livery, as well as most new multiple units and some existing ones. 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But the point is that effort has gone into developing a brand and what it stands for, it isn't just harking back to the awful 1970s, a time people seem to be seeing with a large pair of rose tinted spectacles. Great Britain (or just Britain) is the mainland of England, Scotland and Wales. It does look better than red. Quick reference Livery Guide for Nameplates and transfers available in 4mm/00 scale. A bit like this but without the fuzzy outline on the text and double arrow (caused by MS Paint's paint bucket tool): Sponsor Post - registered members do not see these adverts; I had a play around with this, and I agree, it looks. From 1966 until withdrawal, Pullman Coaches were also painted in the reversal of the normal coach livery, with the blue and grey areas transposed. Famous in York and up and down the East Coast Main Line, LNER could soon be consigned to history - again, YorkMix understands. This colour was applied to all diesel and electric locomotives, with the exception of the ends, which were painted yellow to improve visibility, and the underframes and buffer beams which were painted black; the paints being to BSS 2660-0.003 and BSS 2660-9.103 respectively. Other examples are available Once they'd ditched single colour liveries, they didn't really do anything that wasn't ", One can only hope for a Sectorised return to NSE. This is "straight out of 1975": I'm inclined to disagree there. Northern and TPE split into separate Northwest and Northeast brands. The easiest way to guarantee readibility at night would be to use retroreflective coatings, like those used on road signs. On this Wikipedia the language links are at the top of the page across from the article title. Search for a trade mark - Intellectual Property Office (ipo.gov.uk), https://twitter.com/MrTimDunn/status/912009372292780033, Somewhere along the West Anglia Main Line. I wonder if you could make a hybrid of the two? For example, GBR will apparently inherit from Network Rail the duty to run and plan the network, as well as providing online tickets, information and compensation for passengers nationwide. This opens up the possibility of a national ticketing app, with the Great British Railways branding. I suppose they are quite bland. The Tories, particulary this present mob of throwbacks, have long since co-opted the "great" in "Great Britain" to mean "very good"and it's xenophobic, imperialist undertones me me want to vomit. The BR that believed in having multiple liveries and brands? In which case, why do car manufacturers put effort (and substantial amounts of money!) Its not as if they need the advertising, nor do their brands carry the historic and emotional heft that the famous schemes of the genuinely private railways did. I wonder if we might actually see things like "Northern - by Great British Railways" rather than one single overarching branding. Given the furious backlash over the Protocol, as well as the ill-managed disappointment that was the two parties 2010 link-up (under the awful acronym UCUNF), one can understand why Northern Irish politicians shy away from the Tories. Incorrect: Britain and Great Britain are synonymous, referring to either the largest island of the British Isles (in a geographical context) or the countries of England, Scotland and Wales (in a political context). Several Class 31 locomotives received white waist stripes, these being [2] It was a dark, greyish blue tone which hid the effects of dirt well. I really quite like that now. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Class 01 01002 inside Holyhead Breakwater shed in early black livery. Just like when a new TOC has taken on a franchise, the old TOC name gets removed and the new TOC name gets badged in top, like a big rectangular sticker. I don't see what's wrong with Rail Alphabet which is rather older than the 1980s - to be frank the branding shouts 60s, a period of branding I personally like but obviously that *is* personal - although you could just use Frutiger to keep the tie in with the other large national service, the NHS ( who used to use Rail Alphabet too ). I tried going with the National Rail icon in the right hand side, but it was too small and nobody would notice it. Something will need to be kept open for Open Access Operators to be distinguished. All Regions. Despite the InterCity brand having been introduced in 1966, in 1985 the word 'Executive' was dropped and the livery was applied to all coaches and many locomotives used on InterCity services. Whatever its failings and they were multitude branding was one thing British Rail took seriously and was remarkably good at. Why could GBR franchises not do the same? GW 1 1 Great British Railways The standard livery for most British Railways steam locomotives was black, often with a thin red, cream and grey "lining" (trim), while express passenger locomotives were not painted "Brunswick Green" (Which was the former colour of the Great Western Railway) as is often stated, but were painted in British Standards: BS224 "Deep Bronze Green" also known as "Land Rover Deep Bronze Green LR001" with orange and black lining. Originally a trading brand of the Railway Executive of the British Transport . We use cookies. Make the name central and it'd be perfect. For cost reasons, liveries were usually changed piecemeal, when coaches came in for scheduled maintenance. Except their is massive nostalgia for BR days. Following the introduction of the Advanced Passenger Train in 1983, a similar livery to the APT's (dark grey on the upper body, and light beige on the lower, with two stripes of red and white separating them) was experimentally applied to two HST sets and the coaches operating the Gatwick Express service between London Victoria and Gatwick Airport. | Page 15 | RailUK Forums We're pleased to announce the launch of our new booking engine at tickets.railforums.co.uk, which helps support the running of the forum with every ticket purchased. Why? Underneath that in a smaller font, about half the height of the space between the botton track and the bottom of the arrow "Operated by [whomever] for Great British Railways". It may not display this or other websites correctly. [7], Under Network Rail, all stations are formally in public hands since 2014, but only 20 (mainly large termini and central stations) are managed directly by it. the handling/liability of pensions etc. The Great British Railways Transition Team (GBRTT) seeks to deliver the most ambitious changes to our railways in a generation, working with the government and across the rail sector. Feb 1, 2020. GBR will be made up of five regional divisions, organised in line with Network Rail's Putting Passengers First programme. All Class 42 "Warship" class diesels were delivered in green but some Class 52s were delivered in maroon to match the then-standard coaching stock livery. The first Class 31 entered service in November . Theres no vote in Northern Ireland for him or his Conservative party so he doesnt care, hes hands off.. Which does what it says on the tin. You are using an out of date browser. Due to the consequent muddle of liveries, many trains began to get an untidy if not tatty appearance which added to the run-down image of the railway. OK, it's not a big change, but Germany tends to do rebrandings very infrequently. Most of this nostalgia is from people who aren't old enough to remember just how rubbish latter day BR often was. I imagine the LNER and GWR branding will be around the longest, as its allready kind of govt created and most in line with DfT standards. During 2020, in the midst of the COVID-19 pandemic, all passenger train operating companies (TOCs) entered into Emergency Recovery Measures Agreements with the UK and Scottish Governments. I could see those different types of logos being used across scenarios. It would appear that were going to be waiting a while even for the new logo, and that given the recent nature of the franchise liveries, that new liveries are a very long way off. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. A mock-up for the British Railways Mark 2 stock was displayed at the Design Centre, 28 Haymarket, London, (the showrooms of the Council of Industrial Design) in 1964. Avanti merged with LNWR to form a GNWR brand. There is also a British Standard paint colour BS381C 114 called Rail Blue which was introduced in 1964. GBR will absorb Network Rail, although overall strategic direction on infrastructure investment and fares strategy will remain with government. Sponsor Post - registered members do not see these adverts; Heh. At present, train operators get to decorate their rolling stock in their own colours. You are using an out of date browser. It does affect other devolved rail operators, including ScotRail, Transport for Wales, London Overground, Elizabeth line (Crossrail), and Merseyrail, as well as the combined authorities that oversee other local railway networks in England. Home Forums This livery was known as Large Logo livery as each side of the locomotive was dominated by a full body height BR double arrow symbol, and had the loco number prominently displayed at twice the previous size. Old does not necessarily = bad. The old Northern signs worked well, but only Metro/WYCA really got behind the co-branding opportunities, that I saw. And although BR did changes, it was still the same basic livery really. Free delivery for many products! The old Northern signs worked well, but only Metro/WYCA really got behind the co-branding opportunities, that I saw. One of the worst liveries they ever carried, never seen a HST look so poor. Still makes me cringe everytime I see/read 'Great' in front of anything British since this mob got in. By 2020s Britain, I mean a design that is reflective of modern day marketing and branding. They retained this livery for some years, before being painted in Rail Blue when that became the norm. It really does look dire. JavaScript is disabled. [14] After this date, the passenger versions of Class 37 and 47, as well as Class 50, were routinely outshopped in this livery. We need a sense of professionalism and togetherness, one branding brings that. Job done. Judging from the signage and station painting they will choose something somewhere between boring and ugly, and we will be stuck with it everywhere, for ages. The British Isles in my old school geography books included the island of Ireland but I wouldn't have said that in my recent visit to the country! And other European countries cope with DB trains in France, SNCF trains in Germany etc. This long term strategy for rail will be a landmark resource, enabling a clear and agreed direction for the railway. GBR will own all stations and most infrastructure in Great Britain. [4] One locomotive, Class 47 No.D1733, was painted to match the coaching stock. Or do you think TfL should change their look away from using the current font simply because it's been that way since the 1930s or whenever? The bottom one is basically Serco era Northern signage, and does look good to me, though I would go for a subtle double arrow in the bottom right as I said earlier, and omit the GBR text. JavaScript is disabled. No.31271 in Railfreight "triple grey" livery with Construction sector markings. For Station signage that is supposed to be functional and informative above all else, I don't see too much wrong with this. Question for the designers. The livery comprised brown upper panels with a colour described variously as "biscuit" or "fawn" along the lower panels and separated by a broad orange band. The rail system is a public service not an art gallery. I think there would be huge advantages of a standard livery and branding across the Britain, in saving money and presenting a unified product to the customer. [7], GBR will use a slightly modified British Rail Double Arrow and the Rail Alphabet 2 typeface for branding. [18] GBR will own all infrastructure in Scotland and Wales that Network Rail owns now. Originally running from 1923 until 1948 when it became British Railway, LNER returned to the route of famous for the Flying Scotsman in 2018 when the . particularly associated with the depots at Old Oak Common and Why not capitalize on it? Not even all yellow fronted anymore. Eastfield TMD staff near Glasgow also embellished a few examples of the class 37/0's allocated to the depot with a lower bodyside white stripe in the mid-80s but were told to stop doing it and repaint the ones they'd already done back to the standard blue livery by the BR hierarchy. The attachments illustrate this. This style of livery was also used by CSX Transportation. British Railways was formed in 1948, it was divided into geographical regions loosely based on the pre-war Big Four company areas, Scotland became a region on its own and the former LNER area was divided into North Eastern and Eastern Regions. It's good work (and the previous set). It may not display this or other websites correctly. But we know that anyway - ScotRail is blue based, as was Regional Railways. I personally like this Lion logo posted by Tim Dunn on twitter a few years ago. Antrim Princess Sealink ferry underway in Larne with Sealink letters. In terms of signage, here's what I was working on this morning: Compared to the superb branding packages of TfW and ScotRail, it does not say "come use the railway, it's good", it says "we have spent the bare minimum, stick to your car". Great Britain is not a country; its a landmass. I just see the thing as extremely surface level. Every TfW station I've been to are still ATW-branded (in fact, Hereford yesterday). 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